The Defiant
The Defiant|Jun 04, 2025 12:55
This week, we chatted with @robviglione , CEO of @HorizenLabs, on the game-changing power of Zero Knowledge Proofs (ZKP) and how they can be used for: ✅ Protecting medical records & financial history ✅ Bridging TradFi & DeFi ✅ Empowering consumers through data ownership Are our institutions ready for the shift? 👀 00:00 Defiant Intro 00:07 Podcast Teaser 00:52 Hero Quote 00:59 Introduction to Rob Viglione 01:34 The beauty of ZKPs 02:40 How to balance transparency and privacy onchain 04:00 Why it’s so easy to overshare data 04:50 Living in an age of constant data leaks 06:34 The concept of wealth is fundamentally different now 07:33 Google adopts ZKP to verify age 09:00 A world of a trillion proofs 09:30 How can Web3 handle growing volumes of proofs? 10:09 Will Web2 relinquish their chokehold on our data? 11:52 Monetizing data as an incentive to online privacy 12:45 New opportunities for earning a living by monetizing your data 14:14 The intersection of crypto and AI 16:17 ZKPs and data protection 18:00 ZKPs and AI in medical records and financial history 20:18 How can ZKPs act as a safeguard against misuse in AI 22:15 Hackers and scammers are a certainty; how do we fight them? 22:36 Cryptography, ZKPs, and privacy-centric AI systems? 25:13 Why is privacy a human right? 26:25 Institutions, privacy, and Web3 26:45 Institutions coming onchain 28:30 Better communicating privacy as a human right in the context of Web3 30:30 Will ZKPs change the way people interact with the internet? 32:11 Marketing in the age of AI 33:24 ZKPs and KYC 35:40 Why ZKPs are bad for bad actors 37:38 Government regulation vs. Web3 companies regulating the industry themselves 39:00 It doesn’t make sense for politicians to be anti-crypto anymore 41:53 Can ZKPs redefine compliance and how it’s enforced? 43:13 How can ZKP tech support institutional privacy and consumer data? 44:45 Tradfi onchain as a stepping stone to DeFi 46:39 Lightning round! Favorite existing use case for ZKP 46:54 Lightning round! Favorite potential use case for ZKP 48:04 Lightning round! Best advice for keeping your data safe online 48:49 Closing statements and where to follow Rob Watch here: https://youtu.be/CFXg5E34AcY
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